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* Amazon Central / Amazon Prime Wardrobe No Longer in Beta?
« on: April 13, 2018, 06:27:54 PM »
For those that missed it, Amazon quietly introduced a new Prime feature, called Prime Wardrobe, back in June of 2017.  It's similar to the various fashion delivery services, where you get shipped a box of clothing to choose from.  Unlike the various services, you get to pick what's shipped.  An article about the beta launch can be read at  It even includes the return label for easy return of the items you don't want to keep.

I noticed today that it's now showing up on the front page of (not sure how long it's been there, since I seldom go to the front page). 

Edit - Amazon page is at >>here<< and according to it, it's still via invitation only.  I never requested an invite, but am seeing a "You're Invited" banner   :?
* General Discussions / Re: NECCO possibly going out of business :(
« on: April 13, 2018, 06:21:01 PM »
I didn't care much for the Mary Jane chew when I tried it, but I'm not a  peanut butter person (except reeses peanut butter cups)

Love the Haviland mints.  Remember back in the day when most restaurants had either those or the York Peppermint Patties next to the cash register, with many letting you take one for free?   *sigh*
* General Discussions / NECCO possibly going out of business :(
« on: April 12, 2018, 11:47:23 AM »
NECCO, America's oldest candy maker, has announced that if they can't find a buyer, they will be closing their doors.

Sales of their candy has skyrocketed, with prices reportedly surging online on sites such as eBay (note:I havent verified whether or not prices are actually going up and if there's an arbitrage opportunity there)

Candies they make:
Sweethearts - those chalky, heart shaped candies with words such as "Be Mine" printed on them

NECCO Wafers - wafer candies in orange, lemon, lime, clove, chocolate, cinnamon, licorice, and wintergreen flavors

Candy Buttons

Clark Bar

Haviland Thin Mints - filling flavors of original mint, orange, raspberry, or double chocolate

Mighty Malts - malted milk balls

Sky Bar - chocolate bar with peanut, vanilla, caramel, and fudge

Slap Stix -caramel pop swirled with banana nougat

Squirrel Nut Zippers - peanut and caramel chews

Mary Jane - peanut butter chews

Never had a Sky Bar, but they sound good.  Loved the Mighty Malts as a kid. Same with the Haviland Thin Mints.  Sadly, I seldom see any of these candies for sale any more, thanks to competitors buying up the shelf space :(
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Changes to Marketplace Tax Collections
« on: April 06, 2018, 01:16:45 PM »
Update on Oklahoma taxing 3P sellers on Amazon - it just passed the Senate (already passed the House).

Being called the Amazon Tax, it requires any remote seller and marketplace facilitator with sales of $10,000 or more to collect and provide sales taxes to the state or comply with requirements by the tax commission (in lieu of collecting & paying, notifying each customer at end of year exactly how much tax the customer owes the state).  That overview's from a tv station in Okla City. I presume they mean $10,000+ in sales that are shipped to residents of the state, rather than sales of $10,000+ total, but can't pull up the bill on the state legislation website because the search engine can't handle the fact there are non-numeric characters in the bill number.  It's Okla HB 1019XX
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Changes to Marketplace Tax Collections
« on: April 05, 2018, 04:07:52 PM »
In related news, South Dakota recently lost case where NewEgg, Overstock, & Wayfair fought them over this exact thing (making out of state vendors with no physical presence collect sales tax). It was found to violates SCOTUS ruling in Quill v. North Dakota.  South Dakota is still fighting it and it's now headed to Supreme Court. It's expected to be ruled upon by end of June.
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Changes to Marketplace Tax Collections
« on: April 04, 2018, 11:02:50 PM »
Making Amazon collect sales tax from 3P sellers on Amazon for purchases in Okla has passed the Okla House. Now it goes to Okla Senate.

This is being pushed through as a way to increase teacher pay and resolve the teacher walkout. 
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Changes to Marketplace Tax Collections
« on: April 04, 2018, 06:39:43 PM »
An update - now the talks at Okla House of Reps is to make Amazon collect and submit sales tax for all 3P vendors. Which, Amazon does have a physical presence in the state, in the form of a sorting center, but does not warehouse FBA items in the state.

So, for FBA sellers, Oklahoma does have a leg to stand on, if you look at it from the perspective of Amazon being akin to a consignment shop. However, for sellers that don't use FBA. . . 

They're also talking about eventually requiring all online selling platforms to collect and remit sales tax on behalf of 3P sellers.
Did you think the reason Chinese vendors get to ship to U.S. so cheaply is because of subsidies from Chinese govt? Think again.

From the article: as a result of this shipping fee imbalance, it's estimated that 25% of the 3P marketplace on Amazon is made up of vendors from China.  :o
Love love love my echos (have the original, full-size echo; the tap; and two dots). That is, aside from the whole sucking up tons of data on me and being a 24/7 spy, bit  :(

Alexa swears she doesn't work for the NSA, though, so there's that  :laugh   She does admit to working for Amazon, though Hmmm  :017
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Changes to Marketplace Tax Collections
« on: April 01, 2018, 11:06:49 PM »
My mistake. Was my understand that Ohio had switched to a method similar to Oklahoma's, where it's based on buyer's location (actually based on where the buyer takes possession, which in the case of mail order is buyer's address)
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Seller Forums Redesigned 2-2018
« on: March 31, 2018, 11:25:01 AM »
just visited the new and *cough* improved *cough* amazon seller forum.  Yeowch! What a train wreck!!   Hard on the eyes and ugly as hell.  Who designed that?  A coder from 1993?
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Changes to Marketplace Tax Collections
« on: March 31, 2018, 11:13:01 AM »
Just a heads up, Oklahoma legislators are discussing the idea of making 3rd party sellers on Amazon collect Oklahoma sales tax.  Again, dunno why they think they have jurisdiction for it.  And, so far they're just talking about it. But. . .

The pain in the ass about Oklahoma? it's all based on where the buyer is located, even if the seller is based in Oklahoma.  So, you have to figure out is the address inside the city limits or outside the limits (to determine if city sales tax applies) then which county, to determine which county tax to apply, then add on the 4% state sales tax.  When you file, you have to put in the applicable codes for each city and county, and the amount of sales that was sent to each of those.  Very similar to Ohio's method.
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Changes to Marketplace Tax Collections
« on: March 30, 2018, 02:32:42 AM »
Speaking of sales taxes in other states, I just stumbled across this.  Georgia is jumping on the bandwagon of states that are requiring sellers in other states, that exceed a specific volume of sales, to either collect and remit sales tax or notify the customer that they owe it. 

Specifically, Georgia House Bill 61, if passed, will require online retailers who make at least $250,000 or 200 sales a year in Georgia to either collect and remit to the state sales taxes on purchases or send “tax due” notices each year to customers who spend at least $500 on their sites.

It's passed their state house and is on it's way to the state senate.

When exactly did states get to have jurisdiction over businesses located outside their state?  :053

Speaking of, I got a notice a little while back that Amazon provided my seller info to the state of Rhode Island bcas theyve implemented similar legislation.
* Amazon Central / Re: HAPPY NEW YEARS!!!!!
« on: January 01, 2018, 08:38:50 AM »
Happy New Year!!  Hope everyone makes tons of $ and has good health!
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Changes to Marketplace Tax Collections
« on: January 01, 2018, 08:35:55 AM »
Since amazon works almost the same way as a consignment shop (especially for those that use FBA) they really should do the filing on behalf of sellers for EVERY state in which Amazon has a physical presence, even the seller's home state. When I do FBA, I'm not warehousing the item, I'm not the one handling the $ in the transaction, and I'm not the one delivering the item to the seller.
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Services LLC (beta)
« on: December 16, 2017, 02:35:10 PM »
Had no idea we were (essentially) giving businesses Net30 in the B2B marketplace.
On recent trip to Okla City, I got passed by an Amazon semi. Amazing to see how far theyve come since the early days of selling books online.
* Amazon Central / Amazon adding crypto currency to payment methods?
« on: December 01, 2017, 07:17:24 PM »
Amazon has added a few domain names to their portfolio, causing people to wonder if they're going to start accepting crypto currency, or possibly that they're going to create their own crypto currency.

Amazon now has,, and

While it's possible Amazon merely did this merely as a "just in case" move, in order to secure them while they're available, and it's possible they did it to prevent spoof sites from using them, it wouldn't be that big of a shock to see Amazon begin accepting them.  There are numerous online vendors that accept Bitcoin, including Dish Network, Overstock, NewEgg, Microsoft, Expedia, Steam,,, Bloomberg, Intuit, Shopify, Rakutan, and In 2014, eBay even announced that PayPal merchants could soon accept Bitcoin payments, though that ended up on the back burner when PayPal was spun off.
I came across (well was actually forced to use by one of the crypto currency platforms) a 2-step verification that's not too bad and it supposedly works with Amazon, though I haven't tried it there yet.  The app is Duo Mobile.  It works like the old PayPal key that you press button on for numerical string, but it runs on phone and tablet.

The nice thing is you can install it on multiple devices and you can set it to back up your acct info to your Google drive acct, for fairly easy recovery and easy moving to other devices.  The downside is that it doesn't automatically   sync across devices.  The pain is that for every site you absolutely MUST print out a QRcode and store it somewhere safe (such as fireproof safe).  Plus you will use that printout to add the acct login to every device that Duo is already installed on (and to reactivate them when Duo is restored or moved to new device)

Still, though, I like it better than waiting on a code via text message, especially since sometimes (particularly with PayPal it seems) the text message takes so long to arrive that the code is expired when you get it.

Anyway just thought I'd share

Edit - works on Amazon, easy-peasy.  And, like PayPal security key, you can pull up the 6 digit rolling code in Duo before logging in, and merely append it to your passcode.  E.g. if code is 543543 and password is PA$$WORD, just put in password field PA$$WORD543543 instead of typing in password, waiting for prompt, and then putting in 6 digit code.
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