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And that's exactly it.  You dont buy online to save a few pennies on sales tax.  Sure, you may do it on large purchases, but. . .  People buy online because of convenience, selection, and pre-tax price.

I often buy my toilet paper online. Why? Because it's under 70cents a roll delivered to my door Vs. $1 a roll at local store ($1.09 per roll w/ sales tax). So even ignoring the sales tax it's cheaper to buy it online.  Anther example, before taxes are added, the diesel additive I buy for the truck can be gotten locally for about $120 a case, or I can get it shipped to house for $100. Hmm. Which to choose?

I also buy hardware online. Why? Better selection. For example, one time I needed some bolts in a particular size. I tried buying locally but nobody had them. Amazon did. The next time I needed some odd sized screws, where do you think I looked first?

And, being able to shop at 3am, or when I simply don't feel like getting ready and driving to town, is huge.

As for the ruling, frankly I'm shocked. SCOTUS just opened the door to states having jurisdiction over people who live and work in other states and never set foot in their state. Mark my words, what'll happen next is states will use this ruling as a means to start requiring out of state vendors to file state income tax.
* Amazon Central / Re: Latest Seller Poll from Amazon
« on: June 17, 2018, 04:24:18 PM »
Some of the things they now stuff in bubble envelopes is nuts.  I got a lower end propane leak sniffer ($130) and they tossed it in a bubble envelope. Luckily it got here safely.  You'd think a $100+ electronic would be shipped in a box, but noooooo.  Meanwhile, I've had durable, cheap goods, show up in a box. Smh.

I'm buying more and more from sellers that ship themselves, especially if it's a more fragile item.  Bought a DVD set a few weeks ago that I went with the seller that ships themselves over the FBA option because I knew that Amazon would stuff it in a bubble mailer and the case get damaged.  I guess we're going to have to start sending more stuff packaged in boxes to protect them in transit from the warehouses.
* E-commerce In The News / Re: Buying Cheap Chinese Junk Online
« on: May 29, 2018, 12:38:38 PM »
Pretty much same experience here with banggood. If you set expectations super low, and keep in mind you cant return anything (you can but it will cost you more than you paid for the item) then you'll be mostly okay. One watch (an early 80s style digital) I bought was so bad it went in trash. Another (an analog watch) works fine.

Does it hurt retailers in the U.S.? Yes, but with so much bad stuff on those sites, imho ppl will get burned enough that they'll avoid the chinese sites for many purchases.
* Amazon Central / Re: Australia is open for business
« on: May 17, 2018, 02:45:38 PM »
A pox on both of you!

Now I gotta get it outta my head  :laugh
* General Discussions / Re: One Customer's Complaint
« on: May 05, 2018, 03:47:01 PM »
and he's spot on.  To top it off, now they've slowed down the 2-day Prime shipping.  Used to, I could order on Friday and get it on Sunday.  Now, It usually won't arrive until Monday or Tuesday.   Similar thing with the overnight shipping upcharge.  When I order, many of the items don't even have the overnight option available (even though they're FBA or sold by Amazon), and those that do have the fee a lot higher than it used to be. Sure, everything has gone up over the past few years, but still. . .  For those that don't have the overnight available, I suspect it's a case of the items being warehoused further away from me.
* Amazon Central / Re: Supply Chain Connect
« on: May 05, 2018, 03:32:44 PM »
No way am I having my suppliers ship directly to Amazon. Last thing I need is for Amazon to jump on any more listings of mine.
^^^^ This! ^^^^
Yeah, let's all give Amazon our sources for our products  ::)

But since Amazon likes to steal seller's vendor data. . .

 It always amazes me when I run across vendors that freely share or expose their sources.   E.g., at fairs and trade shows I often see boxes in the recycle bins or trash areas with the return address still attached.  smh
* Amazon Central / Amazon Raising Price of Prime
« on: April 26, 2018, 07:26:02 PM »
According to CNBC, Amazon is raising the price of their Prime memberships again.  Yearly rate will go up to $119, from the current price of $99  :(
if they want to refund the customer, fine, but out of their own pocket, not the seller's!   :rule
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Changes to Marketplace Tax Collections
« on: April 25, 2018, 07:21:48 PM »
just read article from WSJ that sounds a little hopeful. According to the article, Justice Sotomayor said that throwing out Quill would create a whole new set of problems.  And, that Justice Alito also wasn't convinced, saying that overruling Quill could invite states to make more aggressive moves. "Do you have any doubt that states that are tottering on the edge of insolvency and municipalities which may be in even worse position have a strong incentive to grab everything they possibly can?"

But, Justice Kennedy and Justice Ginsburg have both said that perhaps it's time to reconsider Quill and that with the internet, things have changed.   Justice Kagan recognizes that many sellers use 3rd party's such as Amazon to process their sales and that it wouldn't be a stretch to have them handling the taxes, but finds it, ". . . a little bit ironic in saying the problem with Quill is that it benefited all these companies, so now we’re going to overturn Quill so that we can benefit the exact same companies.”
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Changes to Marketplace Tax Collections
« on: April 22, 2018, 03:46:03 PM »
I still say that the ultimate solution is to make sales taxes due at point of sale, not point of residence.
When was the last time a brick and mortar merchant asked you for your ZIP Code so he could calculate your sales tax?
Agreed. That would simplify everything. 
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Toy Category Now Restricted?
« on: April 20, 2018, 10:33:06 PM »
So Legos, learning toys (whatever that means), infant toys, and outdoor toys have been gated? Or is it that theyre planning on gating and sent email prematurely?

I didnt get the original either but did get the other.
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Changes to Marketplace Tax Collections
« on: April 20, 2018, 10:23:34 PM »
The problem with that is, software now for sales tax is costing several thousands of dollars. Too expensive for a small store.
Agreed.  Heck, I tried back some time ago to find a software solution for shopping cart that could handle Oklahoma's tax and couldnt find any.  All I could find was stuff that would have to be custom coded.  Even Kohls had to go with a version that first asked what county you were in, then asked customer if address was inside the city limits or outside the city limits, so that it could determine which county sales tax and whether to add city tax or not.

A partial list of big companies that have gotten my tax rate wrong (overcharging me anywhere from 50% more to 100% more than they should have):
AT&T Cellular
Cricket Wireless
Best Buy
Office Max
Office Depot

If they cant get it right, how does the govt expect small vendors to get it right?  Granted, theyve been slowly getting better, thanks to better software, but still. . .
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Changes to Marketplace Tax Collections
« on: April 20, 2018, 10:10:30 PM »
Oklahoma is one of those states that keeps squandering its money.  Schools were underfunded, so we passed the lottery, casino gambling, and raised tobacco taxes. The money from the lottery and casinos was supposed to go to the schools.  Whatd they do? They started spending the money that was already going to schools on other stuff, since it wasnt earmarked for education.  So, here we are again with schools underfunded, teacher strikes, etc.

Heck, a few years back we spent 21million putting a dome with 3ton bronze statue atop the capitol building. Not to mention the tons of money spent defending laws that have been ruled to violate either our state constitution or the federal constitution.  They tried a few times to ban abortion, for example.
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Prime Wardrobe No Longer in Beta?
« on: April 19, 2018, 12:31:55 PM »
Yeah, that's gotta be it.  Good thing they don't know about the 40+ shirts and the 30+ ties I've bought from JCPenny  :-X :laugh
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Prime Wardrobe No Longer in Beta?
« on: April 19, 2018, 02:18:53 AM »
I dont buy that much clothing from them, but did order around 20 pair of jeans between last year and year before.  :? 

Maybe Amazon is trying to get me to start buying more clothing from them?   :?
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Changes to Marketplace Tax Collections
« on: April 17, 2018, 12:16:35 PM »
Next they'll be wanting out of state vendors to pay them state income tax based on the % of sales that were shipped to their state.
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Changes to Marketplace Tax Collections
« on: April 16, 2018, 08:42:18 AM »
And I am not being the collection agency for states where I have no physical presence. I have more important things to do with my time.
Agreed. If they want out of state vendors to collect and remit the sales tax, they need to provide some sort of incentive, such as letting us keep a % of it as a fee. Then, if our sales are high enough, it'll make economic sense for the company to hire someone to do nothing but spend his/her time filing all those forms and submitting those payments. It would be a win-win.
* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Changes to Marketplace Tax Collections
« on: April 15, 2018, 09:58:13 AM »
Supreme Court will begin hearing arguments in South Dakota v. Wayfair case on Tuesday.   

If SD wins, it could result in states having jurisdiction over online sellers that are located outside of the state, and allow them to force out of state vendors to collect and remit sales tax.

South Dakota's law that's in question creates nexus based on economics rather than physical presence. It requires online sellers, who do not have a physical presence in SD, but who sell more than $100,000 to residents in SD OR have 200 or more sales to residents of SD, to collect and remit sales tax.

There have been a ton of amici curiae (friends of the court) briefs filed in support of both sides

Edit to add: a really good article about the case:
Does look good and I do like that they have email services available (on the $13/month and higher plans); something that not all ecommerce site providers do.

* Amazon Central / Re: Amazon Prime Wardrobe No Longer in Beta?
« on: April 14, 2018, 04:33:59 PM »

Apparently.  Weird how it showed up on homepage, though, just saying something like, Experience Prime Wardrobe.
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