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Title: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: springintoscooters on July 27, 2012, 11:10:59 PM
Malware distributors have resorted to sending suspicious Outlook attachments with their spam. When I clicked on one to mark it as Junk Mail and block the sending address, the attachment executed itself. to my Outlook calendar. When I deleted the entry and ran antimalware, everything looks okay. Has anyone had any experience with these? Has anyone read anything about them?
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: BTPS on July 28, 2012, 01:06:11 AM
I never mark anything I just delete
If it goes automatically into junk I delete all that at one time.
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: planetsuze on July 28, 2012, 07:57:20 AM
You didn't click on the attachment? Only the email? Good grief!!!  :(
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: Southern Jewel's Fab Finds on July 28, 2012, 10:54:32 AM
Nope..never had that happen.
If memory serves ( and sometimes it doesn't) I think I heard something about this going around last month via Outlook.

Glad you're computer is clean...man, that's just not right to hit delete and it executes.
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: Rick Bradford on July 28, 2012, 01:30:02 PM
I don't know if it really makes much difference but I usually right-click to mark them as junk. I think that way the e-mail itself isn't technically read?
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: springintoscooters on July 28, 2012, 02:29:34 PM
I thought the Junk folder would be the safest place for this stuff since that is supposed to disable all functions, but when I highlighted the spam then clicked on the Junk mail icon in the menu bar to block and delete, the document executed without opening the e-mail itself.
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: springintoscooters on August 26, 2012, 09:28:17 AM
Just a follow up, something wonky is happening with my computer and Norton's rootkit scan and Malwarebytes can't detect it, but pages are loading slower, my modem got disconnected from the internet and I had to reboot it using the system password, pages that I land on in Chrome invariably freeze when I connect via a link from another page and a site completely disappeared last night while I was using I.E (although that may have been a server issue with the site). But the most telling sign that something is wrong: Norton's has been disabled and Microsoft Security Essentials has completely disappeared. Looks like another trip to the computer shop is in order.
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: planetsuze on August 26, 2012, 10:44:25 AM
Grrrrr.  :blackcloud It really sounds like your PC is sick.

Do you have another hard drive you could put your "stuff" on and just wipe this one to do a fresh install? Could save you some $$$.
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: springintoscooters on August 26, 2012, 12:09:11 PM
Just called the store I bought it from. Malware removal not included in service contract that's about to expire anyway. Going to take it to the local shop that worked on my old system. Not terribly expensive, certainly no more than buying a hard drive to switch it to.
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: springintoscooters on August 26, 2012, 12:10:29 PM
What makes me almost as angry as the malware is that all these supposedly excellent anti malware programs can't tell that something is wrong with the computer.
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: eotrg2 on August 26, 2012, 12:16:39 PM
Why don't ya try the stuff here first ------>>>>  http://www.f-secure.com/en/web/labs_global/removal-tools
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: eotrg2 on August 26, 2012, 12:39:11 PM
and this one wouldn't hurt either. ---->>>> http://www.sophos.com/en-us/products/free-tools/sophos-anti-rootkit.aspx
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: springintoscooters on August 26, 2012, 10:27:52 PM
Good news: Microsoft Security Essentials reappeared from out of nowhere. Bad news: Norton's is still MIA and nothing I've run, including your two links, have found the culprit.
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: eotrg2 on August 27, 2012, 07:34:50 AM
For your reading enjoyment ---->>> http://www.pchell.com/support/rootkitremovaltools.shtml (http://www.pchell.com/support/rootkitremovaltools.shtml)
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: stone on August 27, 2012, 10:06:01 AM
Good news: Microsoft Security Essentials reappeared from out of nowhere. Bad news: Norton's is still MIA and nothing I've run, including your two links, have found the culprit.

Why do you have two AntiVirus programs running? Everything that I have read advises against this.
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: eotrg2 on August 27, 2012, 10:31:02 AM
Why do you have two AntiVirus programs running? Everything that I have read advises against this.

Glad one of us is fully awake stone. Nice pick-up. Definitely slow things WAY down to have 2 AVs running. In fact they scream when you attempt to install to full AV programs. Plus they could be "killing" each other. Some of the early mal-ware apps did that frequently.
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: springintoscooters on August 27, 2012, 08:14:00 PM
MSE actually captures more malware and adware than Noton's, but it takes FOREVER to do a full scan.

And while I'm here, do you think THIS might have anything to do with my problems:

http://www.webpronews.com/java-gets-hit-with-a-zero-day-exploit-2012-08
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: eotrg2 on August 27, 2012, 08:25:00 PM
Possibility. Disable java in your browser, and see what happens.

Update MSE to TODAY's definition, and if you have that exploit it should be caught. I would disable Norton. In fact I wold remove it.
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: stone on August 28, 2012, 09:34:22 AM
How to uninstall Norton's and many other AntiVirus programs.

http://www.pchell.com/virus/uninstallnorton.shtml

Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: springintoscooters on August 28, 2012, 05:00:17 PM
I found the Norton's install file and did an uninstall/reinstall. Currently running a full system scan with the most current update available. Thanks for the recommendations. This started after I left the system on for a couple of days. May have been primarily a resource issue. Does anyone know how to run the program that's the equivalent of Scan Disc or Check Disc in Windows 7?
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: eotrg2 on August 28, 2012, 07:57:47 PM
Does anyone know how to run the program that's the equivalent of Scan Disc or Check Disc in Windows 7?

Fire up your Command Prompt as Administrator, type CHKDSK, and hit <ENTER>
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: springintoscooters on August 29, 2012, 02:42:56 AM
Thanks.
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: stone on August 29, 2012, 08:32:27 AM
If you haven't already you might want to download / install cCleaner (free version)

http://www.piriform.com/CCLEANER

Read the instructions on how to use all the different componets.  Great program!!
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: springintoscooters on August 29, 2012, 06:38:49 PM
Thanks, again.
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: Southern Jewel's Fab Finds on August 30, 2012, 10:14:41 AM
If you haven't already you might want to download / install cCleaner (free version)

[url]http://www.piriform.com/CCLEANER[/url]

Read the instructions on how to use all the different componets.  Great program!!


Good Gawd, I love this software.
<thumbs up>
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: springintoscooters on August 30, 2012, 11:50:28 AM
I had it on my old XP box. I thought since this new unit came armed to the teeth with anti-malware protection, I might not need it, but I'll certainly consider re-installing it.
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: toobusyforswapmeets on August 30, 2012, 02:03:11 PM
I reinstalled it on this fresh format when whatever malware I couldn't track and hunt down and remove forced a reformat about a week ago, problem was when I'd do a scan with whatever was on that PC suddenly that got on it, it would cancel the scan     :053
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: stone on August 30, 2012, 05:49:42 PM
Scoot am I assuming correctly that you're still using 2 antivirus programs?
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: springintoscooters on August 31, 2012, 10:20:44 AM
Yes, if this becomes an ongoing issue, I'll pick the one to keep and delete the other. But for now, they're working in harmony again.
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: eotrg2 on August 31, 2012, 11:09:12 AM
@Scoot - A little reading for you.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/protect/forum/mse-protect_start/mse-vs-nortonsymantec-mcafee-both-needed/4efd8d5f-2c38-46b9-b063-743c18ea8556
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: springintoscooters on August 31, 2012, 01:25:26 PM
Bookmarked the page. Lots of good information and some conflicting opinions.
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: springintoscooters on February 23, 2013, 08:46:40 AM
There's definitely a flaw in Outlook 2010 security. I just received another malware attachment that self executed on download. It attached itself to my calendar. I deleted both the e-mail invitation and the calendar entry unopened, but it should never have made it to my calendar in the first place.
Title: Re: Got a scare in my Outlook inbox
Post by: Southern Jewel's Fab Finds on February 23, 2013, 09:08:59 AM
There's definitely a flaw in Outlook 2010 security. I just received another malware attachment that self executed on download.

<jaw dropped>
No way, No how should that have even made it to execution.